the federal government did away with it’s defined contribution plan, CSRS, in 1986 for all new employees. Why can’t the states,local government and school districts do the same. The employees were given a thrift savings plan which is similar to a 401k plan. And guess what people are still going to work for the federal government.
H Gruen
It’s long past time to get these overpaid public employees, their entitlement mentality and predatory communist thug unions under control. Collective bargaining is nothing more than legal armed robbery of taxpayers. While these “teachers” have gotten fatter our children have become dumber, unable to even keep up with numberous third word counties much less other western nations. Enough! Fire these foul, spoiled strikers.
ron
All government employees should be reeled in and cut back and layed off if not needed. (and many are not needed) There is so much waste and corruption starting at the top of the pile not the bottom. Clean up the mess.
Overthrow the tyrannous unions. Their greed and selfishness will kill the entire State of Wisconsin. Try experiencing being unemployed for 20 months like I am, and you will have a different perspective of how foolish you fraudulent folks look on television. All of you should be fired as Ronald Reagan did with the air traffic controllers. You all need to eat some humble pie! Then, you will realize how good you “had” it. Fools.
The problem with government unions is no checks and balances. The politician need union dues money to stay in power. Lord Action “power corrupts absolute corrupts absolutely”
teach 101
So funny how we target the middle man…teachers, government workers and public employees when the real problem are the ones holding the money in the monopoly game. Number one profession in the United States right now are lawyers. Why? If the law was so complicated to be scrutinized by so many lawyers, then why not just fix the laws. Why are we attacking the ones who go to work from 9-5 with mediocre dental plans and small 401K? It makes no sense….this is our government looking like its doing its job when it should be going after the corporate world…..Oh yeah thats right….the corporate world put them in office.
Larry
Congress needs to do THIS starting now.
Congress has a massive income of around 4 or $5 Billion a day.
Congress is now wasting over a Billion a day in interest on the debt,
for which, we get NOTHING in return.
Do you think a good manager would spend over a $Billion a day in
interest if she couldn’t “write it off”? Of course not! Why is
congress WASTING over a $Billion a day in interest on the debt?
Congress can not count on any budgeted item to pay off the debt. There
is only one thing congress can use to pay off the debt and that is
REAL income, not budgeted income, not forecast income, not anticipated
income, only real income.
There is a way to eliminate the deficit, cut the debt, lower taxes and
build a reserve fund.
For EACH dollar of income, use 3 cents to pay down the debt and 3
cents to cut taxes and create a reserve fund. Do this every year until
the debt is paid off.
Steve
Oddly enough, states with collective bargaining for teachers have HIGHER SAT scores than states that have eliminated unions. The Gov. in Wisconsin is bashing the unions in order to destroy their support for the Dem. Party.
The right wing loves to bash unions, going back to Adolf Hitler. He didn’t like them much either.
The Gov. has also stuck a line in his budget that allows public utilities to be sold to private industry without bids, at his sole discretion. Nice pay back to the Koch brothers for supporting him. I’m sure the fascists and authoritarians will approve, but tax payers shouldn’t.
borderraven
I don’t elect unions and I want to control my taxes. Public servants volunteer for their job and are selected to work the job, just like the military. Imagine if the military went union, with collective bargaining. How long would that last?
Kit
Spending has skyrocketed into infinity & they all deny it. We’re scratching by on what little we still get & all they want is more, more, more. Now the over-paid teachers want to hold our children’s education hostage so they can ram thru another hike. That’s all they’ve done for the last 25 yrs & we don’t have anything good to show for it. The kids still don’t get what they need so they can at least keep pace with students from other countries & our advanced mat & scientific sectors have to hire people from other countries to fill our jobs but 1 minute after the end of the school day our great teachers are out the door so it’s a small wonder why our kids are falling behind. Then the teacher demands more raises, more benefits & more, more, more. Just who do they think is going to pay for it. My husband works 3 jobs just to stay afloat after he got whacked when the whole economy blew up 10 yrs ago & now there are a few jobs for electricians & so many of that sector had to take employment out of their field & hope things will get better. Well they didn’t. I am no longer able to work & am permanently disabled now & unable to help & the teachers keep wanting more & the school systems want more & no one wants to admit that we can turn out great kids with great potential to get a great higher learning situation, that is if the college happen to have a coupkle of spots for Americans & in the local campus. Does anyone see a trean here???? These school systems can make things better & they can wrangle these spoiled teachers so they are actually teaching their classes & making sure that the students that need help, get it. We had over 30 almost 35 in our classes 40 yrs ago & we made out just fine & now these wusses won’t teach a class over 25, freaking grow-up & get with it. I am so hoping the Govener can pass this bill & give thesse union people back their money so they can get better health care & can grow their retirement at a faster rate so things will be better for them down the road & stop handing your money to someelse to squander it taking care of their fat useless lives. Union big shots take care of themselves, not you & that will never change. Use your own voice to help yourselves not some paid schmuck who lies worse than any politician ever did. Shame on our elected officials skipping town in this childish attempt to stall the vote. You bet they’re getting their same pay & their staff doing the same & all their food & lodging is being paid for by us! Now in whose favor is this all adding up to??? It’s not you fellow Wisconsinites. Think about it!!!
itsjustme
As long as moronic stay at home guys keep falling for the BS that is spewed by Billionaire supported republican candidates, we will continue to go down hill.
Millionaires and billionaires don’t “create” more jobs when you give them tax cuts, they laugh in your face and move another factory overseas.
Get real and get with the program… serfdom failed for a reason… and we’re not willing to bring it back.
itsnotme
One more thing you right wingnuts may want to consider (though I know you won’t) The classrooms today are filled with an awful lot of “not ready for primetime (or even kindergarten) kids”. They are the result of drug and alcohol addicted parents, non english speaking or just plain spoiled kids that the folks at home don’t want to be bothered with teaching manners or correct behavior, to.
Teachers do not have 30 students, 28 of whom have parents that will “taken care” of the kids and their behavoiral issues at home if something untoward happened in school… now there are “suers”... their kid is an animal that another kid finally does something about? Sue…. The teacher has to put the kid out of the classroom in order to allow the other 29 kids time to learn? Sue….
We can’t control politicians that help thir friends first, elected officials that allow a select few to receive outrageous pension benefits but blame the problem on the working/middle class, and we can’t control the wall street mentality that says… “hey, all you poor and middle income folks are just morons… it’s ALL about the rich now” But, maybe, just maybe you all can control your kids, so that the rest of us can actually see the benefit for our kids, in school….doing so will spare the rest of usfrom having to read your drivel here (you’ll be busy raising YOUR family instead of expecting the rest of us to do it for you) Hey, how about those LLC’s, LOL!
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the federal government did away with it’s defined contribution plan, CSRS, in 1986 for all new employees. Why can’t the states,local government and school districts do the same. The employees were given a thrift savings plan which is similar to a 401k plan. And guess what people are still going to work for the federal government.
It’s long past time to get these overpaid public employees, their entitlement mentality and predatory communist thug unions under control. Collective bargaining is nothing more than legal armed robbery of taxpayers. While these “teachers” have gotten fatter our children have become dumber, unable to even keep up with numberous third word counties much less other western nations. Enough! Fire these foul, spoiled strikers.
All government employees should be reeled in and cut back and layed off if not needed. (and many are not needed) There is so much waste and corruption starting at the top of the pile not the bottom. Clean up the mess.
Overthrow the tyrannous unions. Their greed and selfishness will kill the entire State of Wisconsin. Try experiencing being unemployed for 20 months like I am, and you will have a different perspective of how foolish you fraudulent folks look on television. All of you should be fired as Ronald Reagan did with the air traffic controllers. You all need to eat some humble pie! Then, you will realize how good you “had” it. Fools.
The problem with government unions is no checks and balances. The politician need union dues money to stay in power. Lord Action “power corrupts absolute corrupts absolutely”
So funny how we target the middle man…teachers, government workers and public employees when the real problem are the ones holding the money in the monopoly game. Number one profession in the United States right now are lawyers. Why? If the law was so complicated to be scrutinized by so many lawyers, then why not just fix the laws. Why are we attacking the ones who go to work from 9-5 with mediocre dental plans and small 401K? It makes no sense….this is our government looking like its doing its job when it should be going after the corporate world…..Oh yeah thats right….the corporate world put them in office.
Congress needs to do THIS starting now.
Congress has a massive income of around 4 or $5 Billion a day.
Congress is now wasting over a Billion a day in interest on the debt,
for which, we get NOTHING in return.
Do you think a good manager would spend over a $Billion a day in
interest if she couldn’t “write it off”? Of course not! Why is
congress WASTING over a $Billion a day in interest on the debt?
Congress can not count on any budgeted item to pay off the debt. There
is only one thing congress can use to pay off the debt and that is
REAL income, not budgeted income, not forecast income, not anticipated
income, only real income.
There is a way to eliminate the deficit, cut the debt, lower taxes and
build a reserve fund.
For EACH dollar of income, use 3 cents to pay down the debt and 3
cents to cut taxes and create a reserve fund. Do this every year until
the debt is paid off.
Oddly enough, states with collective bargaining for teachers have HIGHER SAT scores than states that have eliminated unions. The Gov. in Wisconsin is bashing the unions in order to destroy their support for the Dem. Party.
The right wing loves to bash unions, going back to Adolf Hitler. He didn’t like them much either.
The Gov. has also stuck a line in his budget that allows public utilities to be sold to private industry without bids, at his sole discretion. Nice pay back to the Koch brothers for supporting him. I’m sure the fascists and authoritarians will approve, but tax payers shouldn’t.
I don’t elect unions and I want to control my taxes. Public servants volunteer for their job and are selected to work the job, just like the military. Imagine if the military went union, with collective bargaining. How long would that last?
Spending has skyrocketed into infinity & they all deny it. We’re scratching by on what little we still get & all they want is more, more, more. Now the over-paid teachers want to hold our children’s education hostage so they can ram thru another hike. That’s all they’ve done for the last 25 yrs & we don’t have anything good to show for it. The kids still don’t get what they need so they can at least keep pace with students from other countries & our advanced mat & scientific sectors have to hire people from other countries to fill our jobs but 1 minute after the end of the school day our great teachers are out the door so it’s a small wonder why our kids are falling behind. Then the teacher demands more raises, more benefits & more, more, more. Just who do they think is going to pay for it. My husband works 3 jobs just to stay afloat after he got whacked when the whole economy blew up 10 yrs ago & now there are a few jobs for electricians & so many of that sector had to take employment out of their field & hope things will get better. Well they didn’t. I am no longer able to work & am permanently disabled now & unable to help & the teachers keep wanting more & the school systems want more & no one wants to admit that we can turn out great kids with great potential to get a great higher learning situation, that is if the college happen to have a coupkle of spots for Americans & in the local campus. Does anyone see a trean here???? These school systems can make things better & they can wrangle these spoiled teachers so they are actually teaching their classes & making sure that the students that need help, get it. We had over 30 almost 35 in our classes 40 yrs ago & we made out just fine & now these wusses won’t teach a class over 25, freaking grow-up & get with it. I am so hoping the Govener can pass this bill & give thesse union people back their money so they can get better health care & can grow their retirement at a faster rate so things will be better for them down the road & stop handing your money to someelse to squander it taking care of their fat useless lives. Union big shots take care of themselves, not you & that will never change. Use your own voice to help yourselves not some paid schmuck who lies worse than any politician ever did. Shame on our elected officials skipping town in this childish attempt to stall the vote. You bet they’re getting their same pay & their staff doing the same & all their food & lodging is being paid for by us! Now in whose favor is this all adding up to??? It’s not you fellow Wisconsinites. Think about it!!!
As long as moronic stay at home guys keep falling for the BS that is spewed by Billionaire supported republican candidates, we will continue to go down hill.
Millionaires and billionaires don’t “create” more jobs when you give them tax cuts, they laugh in your face and move another factory overseas.
Get real and get with the program… serfdom failed for a reason… and we’re not willing to bring it back.
One more thing you right wingnuts may want to consider (though I know you won’t) The classrooms today are filled with an awful lot of “not ready for primetime (or even kindergarten) kids”. They are the result of drug and alcohol addicted parents, non english speaking or just plain spoiled kids that the folks at home don’t want to be bothered with teaching manners or correct behavior, to.
Teachers do not have 30 students, 28 of whom have parents that will “taken care” of the kids and their behavoiral issues at home if something untoward happened in school… now there are “suers”... their kid is an animal that another kid finally does something about? Sue…. The teacher has to put the kid out of the classroom in order to allow the other 29 kids time to learn? Sue….
We can’t control politicians that help thir friends first, elected officials that allow a select few to receive outrageous pension benefits but blame the problem on the working/middle class, and we can’t control the wall street mentality that says… “hey, all you poor and middle income folks are just morons… it’s ALL about the rich now” But, maybe, just maybe you all can control your kids, so that the rest of us can actually see the benefit for our kids, in school….doing so will spare the rest of usfrom having to read your drivel here (you’ll be busy raising YOUR family instead of expecting the rest of us to do it for you) Hey, how about those LLC’s, LOL!